The overcorrection for feminism has left men in a hopeless situation, struggling to attract average women while women have more leverage and access to higher status men than ever before
Questions to inspire discussion
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What has the rise of feminism done to men's dating leverage?
—The rise of feminism has left men in a hopeless situation, with women having all the leverage in dating.
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What are men hesitant to commit to in marriage?
—Men are hesitant to commit to marriage due to the risk of losing assets and resources in a divorce.
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What does the speaker believe about a woman's loyalty and value?
—The speaker believes that a woman's loyalty and value should not be determined by her title as a wife.
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What does the speaker think about the benefits of marriage for men?
—The speaker questions the benefits of marriage for men and discusses the idea of a serious relationship without the need for a formal title.
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What is the importance of prenups in marriage?
—The speaker discusses the importance of prenups in marriage, particularly when one partner earns significantly more than the other.
Key Insights
- 💡 The overcorrection for feminism has given women all the leverage, leaving men in a hopeless situation.
- 💑 The imbalance of expectations in modern dating: "The guy will go out on a date with the girl, he's still expected to adhere to his masculine duty of paying for the date, leading the date, planning the date, all this other stuff right, but the woman isn't necessarily adhering to her feminine duties and responsibilities."
- 🤔 "I'm not going to be the feminine submissive 20th century ideal woman for you until you measure up to my expectations."
- 💔 Men are struggling to attract average women, while women have more access to higher status men than ever before.
- 👀 Men may choose the "instathot" over the good girl, leading to commitment issues and Peter Pan syndrome.
- 🚫 The argument that it's in a man's best interest to stay "Peter Pan" and shame men for committing to marriage challenges traditional views on family and relationships.
- 🤔 The concept of giving an ultimatum for marriage and the power dynamics it creates in a relationship is a thought-provoking topic.
- 💰 Women initiating prenups due to making more money and men agreeing to it for the "only fans prenup" is an interesting shift in gender dynamics.
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Clips
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00:00 🚹 Men are feeling hopeless in dating due to the rise of feminism, as women have all the leverage and may not adhere to traditional feminine duties.
- Men are still expected to adhere to traditional masculine roles while women are no longer coming to them pure, and women have catered to men for years but men were also responsible for everything.
- The rise of feminism has left men in a hopeless situation, with women having all the leverage and men being held responsible for women's actions.
- Women have all the leverage in dating, but many don't adhere to traditional feminine duties and responsibilities, leading to men feeling like they have to fight for a relationship with someone who may not be traditional themselves.
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02:24 🤔 Woman expresses desire for traditional gender roles in marriage but also expects high standards from her partner before fulfilling her own traditional role.
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03:27 🤔 Women want equal rights and responsibility in marriage, but the speaker argues that men and women have different roles and that women don't want equality.
- Patriarchy is a balanced system where men have responsibility and authority, but modern men are confused about their role.
- Women want equal rights and responsibility in marriage, but the speaker argues that men and women have different roles and that women don't want equality.
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05:05 🤔 Men feel that they are expected to adhere to traditional masculine roles while women are not reciprocating with equal value.
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06:14 🤔 Men's fear of commitment and potential loss of assets in divorce leads to a lack of commitment and Peter Pan syndrome, but some may still choose to start a family with the right woman.
- Men often choose the "insta thought" over a good girl, leading to a lack of commitment and Peter Pan syndrome in some men.
- Men are hesitant to commit to marriage due to the risk of losing assets and resources in a divorce, but some may still choose to start a family with a woman who meets their criteria.
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08:11 🔑 Men are better off staying single and dating younger women, marriage without state involvement shows higher commitment, and a woman's loyalty should not be determined by her title as a wife.
- Marriage doesn't offer any benefits that a regular relationship doesn't, and men are better off staying single and dating younger women.
- Marriage without state involvement shows a higher level of commitment between parents, with more incentives for women to get married but also benefits for men.
- The speaker believes that a woman's loyalty and value should not be determined by her title as a wife, and that giving ultimatums for marriage is controlling and diminishes her worth.
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10:24 🤔 The speaker questions the benefits of marriage for men and discusses the importance of prenups in marriage.
- The speaker questions the benefits of marriage for men and discusses the idea of a serious relationship without the need for a formal title.
- The speaker discusses the importance of prenups in marriage, particularly when one partner earns significantly more than the other.
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11:54 🔑 Women have it easy in their 20s and 30s, but men gain value in their 30s and 40s, and it's not attractive for men to still be partying at 50.
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Duration: 0:12:35
Publication Date: 2023-11-09T23:17:47Z
WatchUrl: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrgcwIQXGS8
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