Rivian CEO RJ Scaringe claims that legacy automakers are intentionally slowing down electric vehicle adoption and hindering competition to protect their profits from gas-powered vehicles, which could threaten their survival and allow newer EV makers like Rivian and Tesla to dominate the market
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Questions to inspire discussion
Legacy Automakers and EVs
๐ Q: Why are legacy automakers resistant to selling EVs?
A: Legacy automakers don't want to sell EVs because they make good margins on low-efficiency gas cars and can sell them at a premium price, preferring to see the EV market disappear.
๐๏ธ Q: How are legacy automakers fighting against EV policies?
A: Legacy automakers are the biggest adversaries of EV policies, spending the most energy fighting against them in DC, reflecting their desire for the EV market to vanish.
Rivian's Challenges and Strategy
๐ฐ Q: What financial challenge does Rivian face?
A: Rivian has a massive $23 billion debt, making it more indebted than any startup has ever been, requiring 10-20 years to become cash flow positive.
๐ป Q: How is Rivian addressing its product pricing?
A: Rivian's R2 electric truck, launching in 2025, will target a $45,000 starting price, a strategic move to make their products more accessible.
๐ญ Q: What advantage does Rivian have in manufacturing?
A: Rivian is good at sourcing locally, building many components like motors and battery management systems in-house that didn't exist when they started.
Future EV Market Predictions
๐ฎ Q: What is RJ's prediction for the US EV market by 2030?
A: By 2030, the US market will be dominated by Tesla Model 3 and Model Y, with Rivian R2 as the only other competitive option.
๐ Q: How will legacy automakers fare by 2030, according to RJ?
A: Legacy automakers like Ford, GM, and Stellantis will be shells of their former selves due to prioritizing gas cars over EVs.
Global EV Landscape
๐จ๐ณ Q: How does China compare to the US in EV transition?
A: China is far ahead of the US in EV transition, implementing new regulations like restricting one-pedal driving to prevent accidents.
๐ฐ๐ท Q: Which legacy automakers are likely to survive the EV transition?
A: Hyundai and Kia are likely to survive due to their willingness to build cars in the US and understanding of market changes.
Challenges for EV Startups
โ๏ธ Q: What major challenge will pure EV players face in the US?
A: Pure EV players like Rivian and Lucid will face a war against EVs in the US, their largest market, making survival challenging.
Toyota's Position
๐ฏ๐ต Q: Why might Toyota have an advantage in the EV transition?
A: Toyota has a longer runway than GM and Ford due to its strong domestic market in Japan where hybrids are sufficient, and its second-biggest market in the US where gas vehicles are still in demand.
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Key Insights
Industry Dynamics
๐ Legacy automakers are actively fighting against EV growth through government policy regulations and taxes, despite their public pro-EV image.
๐ผ Rivian's $23 billion debt makes it vulnerable as the first potential casualty in the EV market, despite producing quality vehicles.
๐ญ Rivian's ability to source locally and build key components in-house gives it a significant advantage over legacy automakers.
Market Predictions
๐ฎ By 2030, the US EV market will likely be dominated by Tesla Model 3 and Y, with Rivian R2 as the only other competitive option.
๐จ๐ณ China leads in EV transition with over 300 options, supported by early adoption, government backing, and infrastructure development.
โณ Tesla's delay in releasing an affordable vehicle creates a market gap after the IRA credit disappears in September.
Challenges and Opportunities
๐ Rivian's upcoming R2 model, targeting a $45,000 starting price, could establish the company as a leader in the EV space.
๐ Chinese government's regulation on one-pedal driving from 2027 may impact EV design but not overall adoption.
๐ European automakers are likely to survive the EV transition due to their global market understanding.
Competitive Landscape
๐ญ Legacy automakers struggle to compete with Tesla due to high prices, complexity, and lack of compelling options.
๐ Pure-play EV manufacturers like Rivian and Lucid face disruption risks from industry challenges and increasing competition.
๐ Chinese companies like BYD and Xpeng are gaining global market share in the EV segment.
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00:00 ๐ Rivian CEO RJ Scaringe claims legacy automakers are intentionally hindering EV adoption and competition to protect their gas-guzzler profits, threatening the US lead in the global electric vehicle market.
- Rivian CEO RJ Scaringe claims existing automakers don't want to sell electric vehicles and are fighting government policies that promote their growth.
- Rivian CEO R.J. Scaringe discusses the US electric vehicle market and its future, noting China's lead in EV sales and comparing it to the US.
- Rivian CEO believes that by 2030, the EV market will have limited choice and competition, with Tesla currently dominating the market under $50,000 with only two viable options, the Model 3 and Model Y.
- Legacy automakers prefer selling low-efficiency gas-guzzlers at premium prices, but this strategy will hinder the US in the global electric vehicle market, ultimately benefiting China's growing automotive exports.
- Rivian CEO claims legacy automakers, influenced by the fossil fuel industry, are behind government regulations and taxes that hinder EV adoption.
- Legacy automakers like Ford, General Motors, and Toyota have hindered Rivian's progress and fought against EV regulations, while also being allowed to sell gas-powered cars, unlike newer EV companies like Rivian and Lucid which face restrictions.
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06:35 ๐ Rivian CEO reveals legacy automakers secretly fighting EV policies to protect gas-powered sales and kill new EV makers like Rivian and Lucid.
- Legacy automakers are secretly fighting against EV policies and trying to kill new electric vehicle makers like Rivian and Lucid to protect their gas-powered truck sales and avoid competition.
- Lucid's financial stability is at risk if the Saudi government withdraws its investment.
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09:03 ๐ Rivian CEO reveals legacy automakers like GM and Ford are selling EVs at a loss, struggling with competitiveness, and may disappear from US market.
- European car makers will likely survive the EV transition by selling fossil fuel-powered cars in countries without emission standards, but their competitiveness on price is uncertain.
- Legacy automakers, such as GM and Ford, are selling electric vehicles at a loss, often made in Mexico, which may be subject to tariffs that could lead to their disappearance from the US market.
- GM's recent surge in Equinox sales, a 112% increase, is largely due to dealers buying up inventory before tax changes take effect, rather than a genuine increase in consumer demand.
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12:40 ๐ Rivian CEO claims legacy automakers are struggling to transition to EVs, paving the way for Rivian and Tesla to dominate the market with more competitive products.
- Rivian's CEO believes that changes in EV tax credits and tariffs will hurt legacy automakers, allowing Rivian and Tesla to dominate the EV market, with Rivian poised to lead with its upcoming affordable R2 model starting at $45,000.
- Rivian and other new EV makers have an advantage over legacy automakers in sourcing local components, making their EVs more competitive, while legacy automakers struggle to transition and will likely have to subsidize their less competitive EV products.
- Rivian CEO believes that by 2030, the EV market will have limited choices and Tesla's dominance is not a sign of a healthy market, but rather a lack of competition.
- Legacy automakers like General Motors, Stellantis, and Ford are delaying or downplaying their EV efforts, with some even planning to focus on gas cars, while pretending to take electric vehicles seriously.
- Rivian CEO criticizes Mercedes' EQ electric vehicle models, calling them ugly and a styling misstep for a brand known for its design.
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18:21 ๐ Rivian CEO criticizes legacy automakers for EV shortcomings, predicting bankruptcy for Honda and Nissan, while Hyundai, Kia, and Toyota may have a chance to succeed.
- Luxury electric vehicles often end up with less range than economy cars because adding features and weight requires larger battery packs.
- Legacy automakers like Volkswagen, Mercedes, and BMW have multiple electric vehicle models, but only Porsche and Audi have significantly improved, with gas models still driving profits, while BMW's moves are notable but lack a differentiator.
- Rivian CEO believes Hyundai and Kia will succeed in the EV market due to their willingness to adapt, while Honda is not expected to survive.
- Rivian CEO believes Honda and Nissan are likely bankrupt, while Toyota has a longer runway due to its strong domestic market, US sales, and government backing, making it too big to fail.
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22:17 ๐ Rivian CEO predicts legacy automakers like Ford, GM, and Stellantis will be significantly diminished or doomed by 2030 due to delayed EV transition.
- Rivian CEO predicts legacy automakers like Ford, GM, and Stellantis will be significantly diminished or become shells of their current selves by 2030 due to their delayed transition from gas-powered cars.
- Rivian CEO compares legacy automakers to "one-trick ponies" and thinks they're doomed as electric vehicle companies like those in China offer a more versatile and advanced platform, similar to a PC, that will revolutionize transportation and product delivery.
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24:33 ๐ Rivian CEO claims legacy automakers are hindering EV makers, but thinks they can still achieve their goals despite challenges.
- Rivian's CEO says that making regenerative braking not a default feature is not a big deal, as smart drivers can still turn it on while the setting is dumbed down to accommodate less experienced drivers.
- New vehicles will be required to have automatic emergency braking by January 1st, 2027, to prevent accidents caused by drivers confusing the accelerator and brake pedals.
- Rivian CEO is concerned that legacy automakers are trying to hinder EV makers, particularly pure players like Rivian and Lucid, and thinks Chinese companies will thrive in developing markets outside the US and China.
- You can't reward yourself with something before achieving the goal, you have to achieve the goal first.
- 29:11 ๐ซ Rivian CEO's comments expose discrepancies in legacy automakers' electric vehicle claims.
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Duration: 0:29:30
Publication Date: 2025-07-13T08:39:08Z
WatchUrl: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewj3T69E4Bs
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